「過労死無くす改革とは思えない」 電通違法残業事件の高橋まつりさん母に聞く 働き方法案２７日に審議入り。"I don't think it's a reform that will eliminate death from overwork." Listening to Dentsu Takahashi's mother in an illegal overtime incident, deliberation begins on the 27th working method proposal.

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https://www.nishinippon.co.jp/nnp/national/article/411901/

2018年04月27日 06時00分

過労自殺した高橋まつりさんへの思いをつづった本を手にする母幸美さん＝東京都文京区

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　２７日からの働き方改革関連法案の国会審議入りを前に、広告大手電通の違法残業事件で過労自殺した高橋まつりさん＝当時（２４）＝の母、幸美さん（５５）が西日本新聞のインタビューに応じ、法案について「過労死を無くすために、働き方改革を進めているとは思えない」と話した。幸美さんが新聞の単独取材に応じたのは初めて。

　－まつりさんが亡くなって２年以上が過ぎた。

　「まつりは、自分の力で生きていくんだという思いの強い子でした。就職も自分の意志で。母子家庭だったから、私に『早く楽させてあげたい』と。私は自分の娘を守れなかった。『会社を辞めて大学院にでも行っていいよ』と、なぜ言ってあげられなかったのか」

　－過労自殺を記者会見で明らかにした後の反応は。

　「大変な社会問題になってしまいました。私の思いに共感する人もいれば、逆に『それくらい（の残業は）当たり前』『残業のおかげで日本が成長した』と言ってくる人もいました」

　－昨年１２月に、まつりさんの生涯と事件について本を出版した。

　「娘の代わりに書かなくてはと思いました。本当に娘が世の中に存在して、事件が起きたということを訴えたかった。『幸せだった』と全てが過去形かと思うと、書くのがつらかった。でも途中でやめようとは思いませんでした。私の使命だと思っていましたから」

　－政府は電通事件を機に過労死対策を本格化した。

　「本当にそうでしょうか。経済界のしがらみが無くなるとは思えない。２０１４年には過労死防止法が施行されていたのに、結局は何も変わらなかった」

　－働き方改革関連法案は罰則付きの残業時間の上限規制を目玉にしている。

　「残業時間の上限とした月８０時間は過労死ラインで、決して少ない数字ではない。繁忙期になると、月１００時間近く働いてもいいという。労働管理を指導したとしても、企業はごまかすのではないでしょうか」

　－高年収の一部専門職について、労働時間規制から外す「高度プロフェッショナル制度」も導入する。

　「法案から削除された裁量労働制と一緒ですよね。給料をたくさんもらっているから、過労死してもいいだろうと。過労死を認めてしまう法案で、怒りを覚える。裁量制のように、一度法案から削除して議論してほしい」

　－今後、過労死防止に向けて取り組むことは。

　「これまで約１０校の大学や高校で講演をしてきた。就職を控えた学生にはこれからも『仕事より全力で生きて』と伝えていきたい」

　電通違法残業事件　広告大手電通の新入社員、高橋まつりさん＝当時（２４）＝が、過労でうつ病を引き起こし、２０１５年１２月に自殺した。発症前の１カ月の残業は約１０５時間に達しており、１６年９月に労災認定された。１７年１月に当時の石井直社長が引責辞任。厚生労働省は４月、法人としての電通と、上司ら本支社幹部を労働基準法違反の容疑で書類送検した。同年１０月、電通は罰金５０万円の有罪判決を受けたが、上司は起訴猶予処分に。遺族側は、起訴しないのは不当として、検察審査会に審査を申し立てている。

＝2018/04/27付 西日本新聞朝刊＝

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"I don't think it's a reform that will eliminate death from overwork." Listening to Dentsu Takahashi's mother in an illegal overtime incident, deliberation begins on the 27th working method proposal.

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https://www.nishinippon.co.jp/nnp/national/article/411901/

Apr 27, 2018 06:00:00

Ms. Yumi, a mother who holds a book on her feelings for Matsuri Takahashi, who committed suicide by overwork

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　Matsuhisa Takahashi = mother at the time (24) = Yukiko (55) interviewed Nishi Nihon Shimbun, who committed suicide by overworking due to an illegal overtime incident of a major advertising company before the Diet deliberation on the work style reform from the 27th In response, he said, "I don't think we are in the process of reforming work styles to eliminate death from overwork." This is the first time for Yumi to respond to a newspaper interview.

　-More than two years have passed since Matsuri passed away.

　"The festival was a child who had a strong feeling that he would live by his own power. It was his willingness to find a job. Since it was a mother and child family, I want to make my daughter's life easier." I couldn't protect it. Why didn't I say, "You can leave the company and go to graduate school?"

　-What was the reaction after revealing overworked suicide at a press conference?

　"It has become a serious social problem. Some people sympathize with my thoughts, but on the contrary, those who say "that much (overtime) is normal" "Japan has grown thanks to overtime" I was there.''

　-In December last year, you published a book about Matsuri's life and case.

　"I thought I had to write instead of my daughter. I really wanted to sue that my daughter was in the world and that the incident happened. I thought, "I was happy," everything was past tense, so I wrote it. It was tough, but I didn't want to give up because I thought it was my mission."

　-The government has taken full-scale measures against death from overwork due to the Dentsu incident.

　"Isn't that true? I don't think the business world will be overwhelmed. The 2014 death toll law came into effect, but in the end nothing changed."

　-The work-style reform-related bill focuses on the upper limit of overtime hours with penalties.

　"80 hours a month, which is the upper limit of overtime hours, is a deadline for overwork, which is by no means a small number. During busy periods, you can work for nearly 100 hours a month. Even if you instruct labor management, companies do not cheat. Is it not"

　-For some professionals with high annual income, we will also introduce a "high-level professional system" that removes the regulations from working hours.

　"It's the same as the discretionary labor system that was deleted from the bill. I think that I may die from overwork because I got a lot of salary. I am angry with the bill that allows death from overwork. I want you to remove it from the bill and discuss it."

　-What will you do to prevent death from overwork in the future?

　“I have given lectures at about 10 universities and high schools. I would like to tell students who are refraining from employment that they should live as hard as they can.”

　Dentsu Illegal Overtime Incident　Advertisement A new employee of a major Dentsu, Matsuri Takahashi = (24) at that time, caused depression due to overwork and committed suicide in December 2015. The amount of overtime worked for one month before the onset of illness reached approximately 105 hours, and was certified as an industrial accident in September 2016. In January 2017, the then president, Naoshi Ishii, resigned. In April, the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare sent documents to Dentsu as a corporation and bosses and other executives of the branch office for alleged violations of the Labor Standards Act. In October of the same year, Dentsu was convicted of a fine of 500,000 yen, but his boss was put on hold for prosecution. The bereaved family has filed a prosecution with the prosecution's prosecution board, saying that it is unreasonable not to prosecute.

= 2018/04/27 West Japan Newspaper morning edition =

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